8/20/2019 Rome 2 Dei
Rome 2 takes place in a period before Rome established it's power across europe and as such it is an incredibly diverse game with Gauls, Romans, Greeks and many more. DeI improves the game massively, by adding many new realistic units, more complex building system, better and longer combats, increases the difficulty etc.
Question speaks for itself.
When being or having a client state, what are the pros and cons? Or, more to the point: what exactly does it do.
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Cons
1.) They prevent edicts. If a client state exists in one of your provinces you can't issue edicts because you don't control 100% of the province.
2.) They hold back provinces by limiting what you can build. You can't control what your client state builds, and even if you could, their building do not contribute to your province.
3.) I don't think the income from the client state tribute is significantly higher than what you would earn from directly controlling their settlement.
4.) It's impossible to diplomatically assimilate them into your faction. They will forever maintain their independence, no matter how long you rule over them.
5.) Client state or satrop by conquest; they will hate you for the war, for the conquest, and for the occupation of their city.
Pros
1.) Their last one or two settlements are a considerable distance from your borders. It might be better to take what little you can get by forcing them to become a client state to avoid thinning out your forces to capture, and then defend their settlements.
2.) You need to end a war. If you are fighting wars on multiple fronts and need some relief, this might be a better option than a simple peace agreement.
3.) If you create a client state out of a peaceful faction without conquest or war, they will not have these negative modifiers.
4.)They do give you a positive modifier for treaties with the faction when you create a client state. There is a balanced and logical diplomacy system.
Question 1: Yes, but you are very limited to what you can build.
Question 2: Yes, they can break their status with you if you do conquest by violence however they are very unlikely to do that even when they hate you.
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Hey guys, didn't see anything posted on this amazing game. I thought I'd add my 2 cents to a strategy for playing the ROME faction.
Feel free to modify this. It's just my opinions and overal strategy that won me Rome on Normal difficulty. Playing Rome is actually pretty hard so my strategy is very much situational to your skill level.
Playing it safe with Rome is impossible so if you are new to the game, try Eygpt, at least here you can practice safely on economics, armies and fleets without worrying too much about getting invaded. Plus Invasion will most likely happen to your northern city and costal line as the south and east is pretty much yours.
Early Campaign game, pay attention to your quest goals. Always check your faction for special events. Do the quests given to gain income and fame/votes. Keeps your people in check and you gain more bonuses this way
As Rome you need to be aggressive in your strategy. Here are some things to note early game.
Next target, Syracuse
DO NOT ALLY WITH THEM! It's very easy to start a trade agreement and ally with them however, you can't gain the 2nd province of lower Italy with them around. Plus they become an easy target for Carthage and Greece and you end up protecting them. They can gain disavantages to have you split your armies from north and south. After you take control of Italia do not advance north any further. Take Sicily right away.
Next target Carthage
They would be all over the place trying to take Spain and Syracuse and may take the isles to the west of Rome. Attack them directly at Carthage with a large force. Use both your eastern and western fleets to maintain a blockade and sea defense. They use alot of cavalry, so make sure you equip your armies with some spearmen. The battles do not have much forest protection so fast moving ranged units will come in handy. Spread your units out to avoid heavy ranged hits. If you see a lot of cavalary be sure to keep your ranged behind your melee units. Make sure you use the proper formations. I like to split my army into 2 so if they attack one you can flank them easily. Their units are weak with no armor so again ranged units are good to have.
Target Greece
Once you have the west under your control, Greece will have taken alot of Albania and other eastern states and possibly even Crete. When attacking them, intercept all their trading ports to help reduce their income quickly. Allow their armies to come to you. Keep a huge defense army in southern italy and your main army plus a medium 2nd army attacking them from Venice. If you feel they are netural with you, go ahead and try and take some of spain and advance a little to the west. Keep a big army in the east incase they attack
If you have a large fleet, then head straight for them to Sparta. Don't go straight for athens. Sparta has all there military training grounds of good units as Athens appears to be there economic center. With the blockades of trading ports, you are damaging them anyways. Once you have Sparta go straight for Athens. If they have other states, get them later as they might even rebel. If you ally up with the independent faction covering Croatia, you will have some safety to your north eastern border.
Research I would focus early game on military management to reduce cost of units and fleets since you will need many of them to do the above. Once you capture Italia, start focusing on economy since you will have some unrest and conversions of populace taking place. Once you get bold and taking out provinces of different cultures, focus on philosophy to help conversion and taxation.
Trade When your might becomes large enough, trade agreements will come to you. Take offers from states of least interest and possible exports. Don't try and trade with Northern states as they hate your guts already. Discover eygpt asap and appease them as much as possible. They can make a good ally in the battle againist Greece. They also have a lot of exports. Problem with them is your trading routes are easy to attack and make sure you keep an standard fleet patrolling the route. Once Egypt is on your side gainist Greece, there navy will do a lot of damage to greece leaving it easy for your military to take them out.
Do not trade with Syracuse as you need all there lands to unify another province for Rome. Don't try to turn them into ally or client state. Rome should be at the very least, present day italy. Everything else you can make client states such as Carthage, unless you think you can handle it.
Carthage Campaign Walkthrough[edit]
The beginning of the campaign for the Carthaginians is tedious, but just like Rome, you shouldn't have any relationships with Syracuse. But make sure you take Syracuse before the Romans. Mark the Turditani as a war target for Nova Carthago if you don't think you can take them. Build an army in Spain. Ask Libya to take Phalanzia.
The campaign is in three main theaters. Sicily, Spain, and Africa.
Spanish campaign
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